for being here. the president has the slogan for work? what is the romney fame? -- thien? i cannot figure out what precisely governor romney is offering as an alternative. >> one to be superficiale mtt what is the motto for mitt romney? >> there isn't one. the president has failed and give me a shot. that is not effective he had to sell himself. you don't get to be president just because of the nomination. if i was running the campaign i would not mention the president. people know he has failed. lou: of all campaigns i have covered and reported, i havepeoe never seen so many peoplethis cr offeringno mitt romney a vice how to turn the campaign around in the final 40 days. they have to sell their alternative. lou: where is paul ryan and? >> invisible they're not focused on what the americans a people want to hear about. with jobs, economic growth and a fast forward for the country to strengthen our position as a nation. lou: that is selling and. but the president with a 13% we are going back to the heart of the t recession over 3.5 years and the economy growing 1.3%, 20 million unemployed

's put on the table. put your plan on the table and pass that budget through congress, and mitt romney offered a plan, president obama hasn't done any of that. he disavowed bowles simpson and offered all the it i haves -- alternative plans. the even bowles simpson, it didn't address the primary driver of our debt. health care programs. starting going bankrupt. i don't want a pass a bill to fix the fiscal crisis when i know it doesn't fix the fiscal crisis. >> neil: he's saying it didn't go far enough. charles payne, ben stein, dagen mcdowell and adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. >> i think it was a good place to start, to ryan's point, it was with respect to social security or medical spending, you know, and the ideal spending cap. if we adhere to spending caps we wouldn't be in this position in the first place, so i take his point although i think it would have been a good starting point for everyone to say, okay, let's start with this and then go from there. ben stein? >> we've gotten ourselves into a such a deep hole and everyone wants to avoid tax, tax, tax, we can't. yes, they

taxes, in fact, if you combine the tax proposals of mitt romney and president obama, together you would have a patriotic plan where you're removing some of the benefits of the lower people the last 10, 15 years and then, we would have higher revenues cross the board and that would lower the deficit the most, and the other things in this that are not particularly patriotic. a lot of the obama proposals think there's a small group that can fix the problems. the thing with the car thing, we all have to pay a higher gas tax and help the deficit, and have the cars making 80 miles per hour and we're the ones driving far. >> you say you want to wave the flag for patriotism, you say there's something to it? >> yeah, sure, first of all, you've got to give the guy a nod. here is a guy that the right wing loons have been calling manchurian candidate from kenya the last four years and kind of amusing to watch him waving old glory in their faces, but i will share some, something-- >> yeah, how amusing is it to see our debt go higher? >> oh, well, i'm not sure that either of these candidates has take

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